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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd February 2013, 14:39 | |
| Funny, I wouldn't have thought of Valer as a natural interpreter of John-woe-is-me-misery-me-Dowland. Despite my snarty remarks, I love this repertoire and Andreas Scholl does it so well - but I'm prepared to by verrr-y surprised, so I'll probably buy Valer's CD.
Thanks, Morten.
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karenpat
Posts : 246 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 38 Location : Norway
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Egbertine
Posts : 16 Join date : 2012-07-04
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd February 2013, 16:45 | |
| Dear Artemis, Some more infornation about Valer's latest cd: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Yesterday I found on the internet that Valer won an important cultural prize: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Now Valer is busy with the opera Xerxes: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]You can find more information about him on his facebook page. Kind regards Egbertine | |
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Egbertine
Posts : 16 Join date : 2012-07-04
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd February 2013, 16:53 | |
| Dear Artemis, Sorry, in the message above I made a mistake. The second link should be: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]On the facebook page operamrhein, you have to scoll down till January 27 On his own site, in the photo gallery, you will see that Valer doesn't always need hairclips regards from Holland | |
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Rosamunda
Posts : 322 Join date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd February 2013, 17:27 | |
| Dear Artemis! You and I have many common favorites![You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Sara Connolly is an exciting Sesto and your "Parto, parto," .... aaah.But, Long ago I dream of singing Felipe this Sesto, and was not sure it was right for her voice. But listening to Valer, I think Philip could sing a Sesto irresistible.Please, please, how could I convince him? What do I have to do?[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd February 2013, 19:25 | |
| Egbertine, Thanks for all the information, Egbertine! How could I have missed news of this production of Xerxes?! And the divine Terry Wey as Arsamenes as well! I'm kicking myself ... Although Xerxes is a tall order for a countertenor, I think. I do hope Valer will look after his lovely voice and not try to do too much too soon. Mind you, I'm not sure how I would feel about a Stefan Herheim production of a Handel opera! From the videoclips though, Valer's voice seems to be more suited to Dowland/Purcell then I would have thought - so I'll definitely get the CD. Also, pleased to note that Valer fuels himself on bananas and doesn't always need hair grips! Rosamunda, I never thought of Philippe as The Other Sesto before but now you mention it .....YESSS, YESSS!!! The mere idea of it will guarantee me a totally sleepless night though! I guess you would have to ply our little hedonist with fine food and fine French wines to persuade him. A. | |
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AlexanderBendo
Posts : 117 Join date : 2012-11-01
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd February 2013, 21:40 | |
| Artemis, Egbertine, I put the WDR- documentary on YT, this "Xerxes" is really wonderful staged, I think! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ________________________________ Händel for President! Jaroussky pour le Ministre de la culture!
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 3rd February 2013, 12:48 | |
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Rosamunda
Posts : 322 Join date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 12:53 | |
| I do not know, I do not know, dear Alexander ... Yes, the staging looks wonderful (with some objections) and Valer has a magical voice. But ... Xerxes?. I find it too soft, sooo Semira transvestite of king. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Artaserse has upset my head?. It's very, very possible. It was stunning!. | |
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Duffy
Posts : 476 Join date : 2011-01-31 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 15:06 | |
| Rosamunda, the same for me, I think P would have sounded the same way in a role like that at the age of 27. Valer should take his time. But there is a lot to expect from him in the future.... | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 15:44 | |
| I wasn't going to post again on this particular topic but I've been sucked into an interesting discussion. I see that Rosamunda and Duffy also share my concern about Valer doing too much, too soon (already expressed above). In addition to "Ombra mai fu", Serse also has to sing arias like this: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Unfortunately, the operatic world is full of ex-bright young things who blazed only for a short while - largely because they were persuaded to sing rôles that they weren't ready for or were just unsuited to their voice. Opera house managers, agents and conductors, who all have vested interests, seem to conspire in this. I do hope Valer will be careful and I wish him well! By the way, isn't Paula Rasmussen splendid? A. | |
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Duffy
Posts : 476 Join date : 2011-01-31 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 16:00 | |
| Philippe's first Nerone must also have sounded a bit strange, I think...and as far as Valer is concerned and especially his new CD: Andreas Scholl has set the bar very high with his interpretations of Dowland and Purcell. Valer shouldn't have done that now. It sounds, well, "nice" but it doesn't transport the text. Not convincing me. BTW, I would die for a Purcell CD by Philippe now with his matured voice. It would be the right time to do that. | |
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Rosamunda
Posts : 322 Join date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 18:24 | |
| Oh, yes, yes, Duffy, I totally agree. Philippe, recording a CD´s Purcell when you return from vacation, please! Every time I hear his "Wondrouss machine" (with very bad very bad image and sound) I think nobody has sung this better than he: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Who could forget his rendition of "My dearest, my fairest" with Andreas?. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Dear Artemis, to Valer the role of Semira has been perfect at this time. Do not you think so?. I can not imagine anyone who would have played better and to me it would hurt a lot he stumble with the Peter Principle. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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AlexanderBendo
Posts : 117 Join date : 2012-11-01
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 21:44 | |
| Rosamunda Artemis ( ) I think ( imho) , Valer´s voice is too masculine to identify him only with Semira, his acting was really convincing for sure , but I´d prefer to see him as a hero, not as a "dying swan" at all. ( Btw " Crude furie" : great! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ) Duffy I forbade myself just to imagine how like sounded Philippe´s first Nerone. But his first Orfeo...more imaginable, no ? ________________________________ Händel for President! Jaroussky pour le Ministre de la culture!
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 22:07 | |
| Thanks a lot Alexander Bendo, I love this aria and this rendition!!! | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 23:13 | |
| He, he, Mr. Bendo - I've just returned home from Joyce DiDonato's "Drama Queens" recital - she was great - every inch the diva (and a frock to die for)! Rosamunda, I agree. Valer's performance as Semira was an enchantment, pure and simple, and I don't think it could have been performed better. I'm sure too there are many more rôles that he can sing. He's definitely not a one trick pony! I'm just a little concerned about the opera "industry's" tendency to latch on to the latest thing and to get them to perform anything and everything regardless of whether they are ready or it suits them. Young tenors are particularly vulnerable in this respect and the industry seems to use them, burn them up and spit them out at will. I don't want this to happen to young countertenors - particularly the delicious ones! A. | |
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 4th February 2013, 23:36 | |
| Oh , Artemis, how lucky you are! I am totally in love with her "Crude furie". I must confess I watched her Dramma Queens promotional video and it was the first time I knew about her...Her CD seems a great way to start learning something about her [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I like very much Valer's "Hasse reloaded", especially his "Cadrà tra poco in cenere". I should have a look to his "To kiss" | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 5th February 2013, 07:13 | |
| Hi, Pilar!
As well as being a fine mezzo, Joyce is also a superb actress. She's a real stage animal. I saw her a couple of weeks ago positively chewing up the scenery in the New York Met's Live in HD series as Maria Stuarda - along with Elza van den Heever, a young South African soprano, who was a gutsy, strutting Elizabeth I. Some of Joyce's finest Met performances are available on DVD - notably as the page Isolier in Rossini's "Comte Ory" and as Sycorax in "The Enchanted Island" (a baroque pastiche).
She also has a charmingly natural platform personality. Last night, The Frock To Die For got a spontaneous round of applause from the audience (and wolf whistles from the men). A delighted Joyce treated the audience to a little twirl so that we could see the dress from the back. She also endearingly cradled her bouquet during the encores - most artists lay it aside ...
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 5th February 2013, 09:51 | |
| Dear Artemis,
Thanks for sharing this information. Yesterday I was checking her CD's and I definitely will buy some!! | |
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AlexanderBendo
Posts : 117 Join date : 2012-11-01
| Subject: Re: Other voices 5th February 2013, 11:33 | |
| Artemis, so, we share also our passion for Lady Joyce ! Have you already read her blog "Yankeediva"? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ________________________________ Händel for President! Jaroussky pour le Ministre de la culture!
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 6th February 2013, 13:06 | |
| Thanks, Mr.Bendo. Although, "Yankee Diva" already features in my "Favourites" list, along with a lot of other opera blogs - Yes, I know, I should get a life and get out more!!
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 21st February 2013, 19:39 | |
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*JaRoWi1647* Admin
Posts : 1373 Join date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: Other voices 21st February 2013, 22:53 | |
| Artemisyes! Lucky students here! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]( There was also " Svegliatevi nel core", but the user removed it, pity .) ________________________________ " J’essaye de contrôler mon image et je ne vois pas pourquoi je parlerais de ma vie privée ou pourquoi je devrais faire connaître publiquement mes choix politiques ou autres." [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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*JaRoWi1647* Admin
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| Subject: Re: Other voices 7th March 2013, 08:57 | |
| ________________________________ " J’essaye de contrôler mon image et je ne vois pas pourquoi je parlerais de ma vie privée ou pourquoi je devrais faire connaître publiquement mes choix politiques ou autres." [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Duffy
Posts : 476 Join date : 2011-01-31 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Other voices 7th March 2013, 13:07 | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 7th March 2013, 13:31 | |
| Ahimè!! Yet another countertenor who can't keep his hands off "Voi che sapete". Philippe, Max and Nikos Spanos have all had a go at it too. Excellent though their versions are, just leave it alone, chaps - it's not what Wolferl wanted!
(Just my opinion ...)
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 12th March 2013, 08:50 | |
| Since we were discussing "Crude furie" above, what do you think of our Megabise here?! Actually, I prefer Yuri singing Rossini (afterwards) but that's just me ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]A. | |
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 12th March 2013, 10:09 | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 12th March 2013, 11:06 | |
| Yes, Pilar, he is! And here he is channelling Farinelli (also from Cardiff) ... I'll never understand why he didn't win. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]A. | |
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*JaRoWi1647* Admin
Posts : 1373 Join date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: Other voices 12th March 2013, 14:26 | |
| Thanks, Artemis!
I thought the same.
________________________________ " J’essaye de contrôler mon image et je ne vois pas pourquoi je parlerais de ma vie privée ou pourquoi je devrais faire connaître publiquement mes choix politiques ou autres." [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 17th March 2013, 20:40 | |
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hHarpsichordk
Posts : 5 Join date : 2012-10-29
| Subject: Re: Other voices 18th March 2013, 07:50 | |
| I had the pleasure of seeing Andreas Scholl with Tamar Halperin yesterday evening. 'Pleasure' is an understatement. I ended up pretty much melted at the end of the concert. His voice is so different from that of mr. Jaroussky, but so, só beautiful. A pity he didn't sign afterwards, but I guess I'll just have to go to another concert. | |
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Duffy
Posts : 476 Join date : 2011-01-31 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Other voices 18th March 2013, 12:30 | |
| I saw him last year in Frankfurt, also with his wife. Unfortunately he was miked.... | |
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*JaRoWi1647* Admin
Posts : 1373 Join date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: Other voices 22nd March 2013, 21:21 | |
| Dates for " Artaserse" 2014. Without Philippe. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]________________________________ " J’essaye de contrôler mon image et je ne vois pas pourquoi je parlerais de ma vie privée ou pourquoi je devrais faire connaître publiquement mes choix politiques ou autres." [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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*JaRoWi1647* Admin
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| Subject: Re: Other voices 22nd March 2013, 21:26 | |
| "Venezia" with M.-E. Cencic from München, Germany by ARTE live web: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]________________________________ " J’essaye de contrôler mon image et je ne vois pas pourquoi je parlerais de ma vie privée ou pourquoi je devrais faire connaître publiquement mes choix politiques ou autres." [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Artemis
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| Subject: Re: Other voices 22nd March 2013, 22:11 | |
| Thanks, Jana. Straight to "favourites" and I've still got 173 days left to enjoy ...
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*JaRoWi1647* Admin
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| Subject: Re: Other voices 22nd March 2013, 23:45 | |
| The new " Arpeggiata" - CD is released in Germany! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]________________________________ " J’essaye de contrôler mon image et je ne vois pas pourquoi je parlerais de ma vie privée ou pourquoi je devrais faire connaître publiquement mes choix politiques ou autres." [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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karenpat
Posts : 246 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 38 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: Other voices 31st March 2013, 15:29 | |
| By chance I stumbled upon the broadcast of a live recording of Handel's Poro, re dell'Indie yesterday....with Franco Fagioli in the title role. I managed to record it! As of now it's in 3 parts but needs editing & splitting. If anyone's interested I can upload it somewhere once I've finished. | |
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karenpat
Posts : 246 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 38 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: Other voices 2nd April 2013, 15:55 | |
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Saskia
Posts : 798 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: Other voices 12th April 2013, 20:11 | |
| I like: Les Arts florissants > "Le Jardin de Monsieur Rameau" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Enjoy the spring, the sun on weekend and new flowers. | |
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 15th April 2013, 20:26 | |
| Today I shared a nice conversation in FB about last Xavier Xabata's CD. Here is the video: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Please let me know what do you think about it [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 15th April 2013, 23:16 | |
| Hi, Pilar, I really like Sabata's voice (and he was great as Philippe's mum in Sant' Alessio!) and Il Pomo d'Oro are fabulous. I'd be interested to see the tracklist. How many Handelian "Bad Guys" are there for a countertenor to sing? In Handel's day, the baddies were sung by tenors as a rule. Bryn Terfel has already done an album of (baritonal) "Bad Boys" so the concept is not new - and even he was having problems finding enough really bad boys (as opposed to loveable rogues like Dulcamara) to include. I see that "Sorge nel petto" has been included - is Gottfredo an out and out baddie? Anyway, it's one of my favourite Handel arias and Xavier sings it beautifully. Here's Lawrence Zazzo's version which I like very much too: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]A. | |
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 00:44 | |
| Dear Artemis, Thanks for your answer. I like his voice, but I think he doesn't move me much, my heart is already taken [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] However, his album seems very interesting. Now I'm listening to Alessandro, his role is very beautiful. I must admit I'm quite shocked about his look, he seems just out of his bed! I can't imagine Philippe singing in his underwear...okay I can, but that's not the point! hehehe, for me it's a matter of "decorum". Thanks for Zazzo's video I didn't know him and he is great! I didn't also know Bryn Terfel, I'm going to check him. | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 07:43 | |
| Quote: "I can't imagine Philippe singing in his underwear ..." Thanks, Pilar - you've just managed to shatter my peace of mind for the rest of the day I agree. Mr. Sabata should purchase a large Demis Roussos-style caftan and cover himself up! I think the "dressing down" and facial hair is an attempt to appear grrr-macho and a reaction against the stereotype of the countertenor (Xavier is not alone in this) - understandable in the 50s and 60s, but hardly necessary now, I would have thought. CTs do seem to love facial hair - everything from full face fungus (David Daniels) to designer stubble (Andreas Scholl and my beloved Max) and all stations in between (Barna-Sabadus et al) ... I prefer our smooth-faced ephebe and forgive him everything (even the bare feet and cargo pants in the Caldara promotional video) ... A. | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 09:09 | |
| All this talk of countertenors past has reminded me of the hero of my youth - Paul Esswood - the David of all Davids (deep sigh). This recording never fails to move me with its heartstopping gorgeousness ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]A. | |
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 10:58 | |
| hehehe, I think it's a good start for the morning [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] but I guess we have to content ourselves with Philippe's casual chic [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]. Sabata's macho look has nothing to do with his way of moving and talking...I also prefer the ephebic type, more apollinean! Your David Esswood is fantastic!!! | |
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karenpat
Posts : 246 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 38 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 13:51 | |
| - Pilarddcc wrote:
- I must admit I'm quite shocked about his look, he seems just out of his bed! I can't imagine Philippe singing in his underwear...okay I can, but that's not the point! hehehe, for me it's a matter of "decorum".
When I first watched that video I was kind of surprised by his fashion choices too - not just the "meggings" but the facial hair and glasses too. I know quirky glasses with thick frames are very in right now but he has such lovely eyes, he shouldn't cover them up (ETA: I don't remember if he's actually wearing them so much in the EPK video but he wears the pair I'm referring to a lot in the recent photos from the Tamerlano recording session) On the topic of facial hair, I like Philippe's "off-duty-5-o'-clock-shadow-look" that he's been sporting in some of the traveling photos lately. *ashamed of self for posting solely about matters of appearance in a thread dedicated to voices, ooops*..... | |
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Artemis
Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-10-26
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 14:44 | |
| I'll be seeing both Xavier and Max in "Alessandro" in May. Memo to self: Don't forget to give an in-depth report on the facial hair situation ... A. | |
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Pilarddcc
Posts : 662 Join date : 2011-11-28 Age : 45 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Other voices 16th April 2013, 15:24 | |
| Dear karenpat, don't be ashamed, we are also flesh and bones [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Good point, Artemis, we will wait impatiently for your report! | |
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Saskia
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| Subject: Re: Other voices 22nd April 2013, 20:42 | |
| ARTE Lounge (german language) from 2012: A nice conversation with Andreas Scholl: "Uncomplicated" and "sympathetic " and "with humour" The first part: A small lesson with Andreas Scholl and a nice moderator with talent. After that — a nice statement for baroque music. I like it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]("Yes — good for the soul.... I agree with you!" ) | |
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